Who Bought and Holds the Recklessly Ballooning US National Debt, even as the Fed is Unloading its Treasury Securities?

A hot question for an iffy situation. So here are the holders as of Q3.

By Wolf Richter for WOLF STREET:

The US national debt keeps ballooning at an amazing rate and has now reached $36.16 trillion. These are Treasury securities that private and public entities in the US and foreign countries hold as interest-earning assets. The question is: Who holds this debt? Who bought it even as the Fed has been unloading its holdings? At the end of Q3, the time frame here, the total debt was $35.46 trillion.

Who held this $35.46 trillion in Treasury securities at the end of Q3?

US Government entities: $7.16 trillion. This “debt held internally,” also called “intragovernmental holdings,” consists of Treasury securities held by various federal civilian and military pension funds, the Social Security Trust Fund (we discussed the Social Security Trust Fund holdings, income, and outgo here), the Disability Insurance Trust Fund, the Medicare Trust Funds, and other funds.

The “public” held the remaining $28.31 trillion at the end of Q3. It’s these holdings we’re going to look at in a moment.

Who is this “public?”

Foreign holders: $8.67 trillion, or 30.6% of the debt held by the public, including foreign private sector holdings and foreign official holdings, such as by central banks, according to Treasury Department data.

Overall foreign holdings of Treasury securities have continued to rise from record to record. The biggest holders are the top six financial centers ($2.60 trillion), the Euro Area ($1.78 trillion), Japan ($1.12 trillion), China and Hong Kong combined ($1.0 trillion).

Other big holders with rapidly growing holdings include Canada ($370 billion), Taiwan ($288 billion), and India ($247 billion). We discussed the details here:

While China has reduced its holdings of Treasury securities, the Euro Area has more than made up for it:

US mutual funds: 17.6% or about $5.0 trillion of the debt held by the public. This includes bond mutual funds, money market mutual funds, according to the Quarterly Fixed Income Report for Q3 from SIFMA (Securities Industry and Financial Markets Association).

Federal Reserve: 15.4% or $4.36 trillion of the debt held by the public. Under its QT program, the Fed has already shed $1.46 trillion of Treasury securities since the peak in June 2022 (our latest update on the Fed’s balance sheet).

US Individuals: 10.3% or about $3.1 trillion of the debt held by the public, according to quarterly data from SIFMA. These are investors who hold Treasuries in their accounts in the US.

US State and local governments, including in their pension funds: 6.4% or about $1.8 trillion of the debt held by the public, according to SIFMA.

US Commercial Banks: 6.1% or $1.73 trillion of the debt held by the public at the end of November, according to Federal Reserve data about bank balance sheets – back to the record established in May 2022. Banks are re-loving them?

US Private Pension funds: 3.7% or $1.1 trillion of the debt held by the public.

US Insurance companies: 2.3% or $0.63 trillion of the debt held by the public.

Nonmarketable Securities Held by the Public: 2.1% or $0.59 trillion of the debt held by the public, according to Treasury Department data. These securities held by the public cannot be traded in the market and are not purchased at auctions but directly from the government. They include the I series savings bonds and the EE savings bonds, largely held by savers and retail investors. They also include the “State and Local Government Series” that are held by state and local governments, the Government Account series, and other bonds.

“Other”: $0.4 trillion or 1.4% of securities held by the public, according to SIFMA’s report.

The burden of the US national debt: The magnitude and speed of the Interest-Payments-to-Tax-Receipts ratio’s two-year spike is unprecedented in modern US history. It does not look good. Read… Federal Government Interest-Payments-to-Tax-Receipts Ratio Spikes, Debt-to-GDP Worsens Further in Q3.

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  66 comments for “Who Bought and Holds the Recklessly Ballooning US National Debt, even as the Fed is Unloading its Treasury Securities?

  1. Wolf Richter says:

    Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays everyone!!

    🎇🧨✨🎁🎀♥️

    • Amarok says:

      Thank you for another insightful year. Merry Christmas.

    • SpencerG says:

      Merry Christmas to you as well. Another great year of commentary!

    • Frostbitefalls says:

      Merry Christmas Wolf to you and yours! Thank you for all you do to inform!

    • Sean Shasta says:

      Merry Christmas, Wolf and all.

    • 1stTDinvestor says:

      Merry Christmas Wolf. Thanks so much. Here’s to a healthy, happy, and prosperous 2025. 🎄

    • Jorge says:

      Feliz Navidad, Wolf and all!

    • andy says:

      Merry Christmas 🎄 Wolf to you and yours!!

    • Harry says:

      Merry Christmas

      Wolf, is it possible to identify which amounts of treasuries are hold by stable coins?

      Whenever someone investing in cryptos he changes cash into stable coins. Stable coins keeping cash at banks and buying treasuries and other investments

      Whenever someone is selling cryptos the opposite happens and treasuries are sold.

      • rodolfo says:

        Not any expert on crypto stablecoins but ran into the following. No guarantees on accuracy but probably pretty close to reality. Looks like bitcoins ends year with another huge gain. Wowser

        Quote;

        Ubiquitously recognized as “crypto’s killer app”, the global importance of stablecoins started permeating beyond the crypto industry. Stablecoins continued to export the dollar around the world, crossing an aggregate $210B in supply. USDT ($138B) and USDC ($42B) remained the dominant players, while a majority of stablecoin supply tilted in favor of the Ethereum network, with $122B in stablecoin supply. Altogether, stablecoins facilitated $1.4T in monthly (adjusted) transfer volumes in November.

        While stablecoins’ role as a medium of exchange and store of value in emerging economies has been widely explored, momentum around their utility in payments and financial services infrastructure accelerated with Stripe’s acquisition of Bridge. Furthermore, with 99% of stablecoins USD-pegged and nearly $100B directly invested in U.S. Treasuries by Tether and Circle, they also solidified their position as key vehicles for preserving dollar dominance on a global scale.

      • Wolf Richter says:

        Tether just agreed to put $775 million into Rumble for an equity stake. Not into Treasuries. Is Tether now backed by Rumble stock? What if Rumble fails? In that case, Tether’s equity stake of $775 million will be worth zero. I continue to be amazed by the BS that is going on in the crypto world.

        • Redundant says:

          I think if we get a mini correction soon, the BTFD crowd will be very focused on meme coin acquisition — and I think we’re starting to see a generational disconnect from traditional valuation measures.

          The rock solid foundation of treasuries as a safety net is transforming and totally worthless and useless trending coins are being used as bait, to lure in cash flow.

          I’m absolutely against a bitcoin reserve, but we’re maybe within weeks of that stupidity exploding.

          The concept of using America tax dollars to subsidize bitcoin holders is nothing short of criminal — not to mention using taxpayer funds to devalue our currency. Even if it’s a matter of swapping treasury gold for crypto, that’s criminally insane— and sets a precedent for unlimited fiscal boondoggle con games.

          I’m literally furious about this abuse of power that’s being crafted (by gangsters)!

        • Duke says:

          Tether made over 4 billion profit in Q1 2024.
          775 million to rumble is nothing.
          People give Tether currencies, tether gives people USDC which is pegged to the dollar 1:1. Tether makes pure profit on the float by earning interest on short term treasuries. Supposedly their treasury has enough for everyone to redeem their USDT for fiat as the treasuries mature.

    • sufferinsucatash says:

      May the festivus pole grant you many wishes!

    • BB says:

      Frohe Weihnachten Euch und einen guten Rutsch in 2025! LG

    • eg says:

      Joyeux Noel!

    • Debt-Free-Bubba says:

      Merry Christ mas Folks

    • Sacramento refugee in Petaluma says:

      Merry Christmas Wolf!

      Your web site & reporting is a light in the darkness for me.

      When given an option to read WSJ or wolf Street, I pick Wolf Street every day.

      If more people knew of wolfstreet, it would be bigger than WSJ

    • ZachRE says:

      Merry Christmas, Wolf!

      Thanks for all the information you compile and share.

    • Matt B says:

      Merry Christmas everyone!

    • Doc says:

      Merry Christmas Wolf.

      Id rather have coal than crypto from Santa.

      Be well.

      Send via interwebs from Maui.

  2. Steelers Fan says:

    Merry Christmas Mr Richter.

  3. SoCalBeachDude says:

    Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays!

  4. Glen says:

    The positive side is the chickens are back home to roost. We don’t have a political system that can solve the ever expanding deficit in a meaningful way and of course payments on debt will continue to increase. However seems like there is plenty of can kicking to do before a proverbial fan shows up. We are an individualist society so you have to get your slice of the pie if you have the means to do so.

    • Home toad says:

      So….What your saying is, the chicken came home to roost?
      Why you would say that is puzzling, if your commenting on this article, the US debt is held by many others as well so the chicken is still out and about.
      It could be a drone your seeing disguised as a flying chicken.

  5. Mike says:

    Thank you for this website, WR…. Small time, T Bill investor

  6. Canadaguy says:

    Thanks and Merry Christmas. Best wishes to you and your family,

    It appears the Bank of Canada is trying to stabilize the Cdn dollar through it’s treasury purchases – the recent charts suggest it isn’t succeeding well, as it seems to have an EKG-like recent history against the US Dollar.

  7. SoCalBeachDude says:

    MW: 10-year Treasury yield hits fresh 7-month high during holiday-shortened session

  8. SoCalBeachDude says:

    Telegraph: Why US borrowing could soon eclipse Greece and Italy as world drowns in debt

    America now owes more money than the value of its economy – which should worry us all. When it comes to economic performance, few prime ministers or presidents would welcome comparison with Greece. Images of protests, riot police and the streets of Athens ablaze dominate the international memory, dating from the country’s debt crisis in 2011.

    By the pandemic, its debt was more than double the size of its economy, a position matched by some of the world’s poorest and most crisis-ridden danger zones including Eritrea, Sudan and Venezuela. It’s not a club anyone would wish to join.

    But astonishingly, economists predict that in a decade’s time, another nation will have joined this dubious roll of honour – the United States of America.

    • John H. says:

      SCBD-

      Your post reminded me of a quote from Will and Ariel Durant’s History of civilization, perhaps slated for repetition in upcoming decades?

      “Individualism stimulates the able, and degrades the simple; it creates wealth magnificently, and concentrates it dangerously. In Athens, as in other states, cleverness gets all that it can, and mediocrity gets the rest. The landowner profits from the rising value of his land; the merchant does his best, despite a hundred laws, to secure corners and monopolies; the speculator reaps, through the high rate of interest on loans, the lion’s share of the proceeds of industry and trade. Demagogues arise who point out to the poor the inequality of human possessions, and conceal from them the inequality of human economic ability; the poor man, face to face with wealth, becomes conscious of his poverty, broods over his unrewarded merits, and dreams of perfect states. Bitterer than the war of Greece with Persia, or of Athens with Sparta, is, in all the Greek states, the war of class with class.”
      — Will Durant, The Life of Greece

      Christmas Cheers

      • Matt B says:

        And if we want to widen that scope even a bit further:

        “…And with their trader’s babble they have killed
        The ancient voices that could make them wise.
        Their mightiest in trickery and lies
        Are chiefs among them. it shall come to pass
        When these at last have stolen all the grass
        And all the wood, the water and the meat,
        And there is more to burn and drink and eat
        Than all could use in many moons of feast,
        The staving people shall become a beast,
        Denied the very grasses of the chief.
        But dreaming each to be the bigger thief
        They toil and swarm, not knowing how their sweat
        Shall turn to blood upon them. Who forget
        Their mother, are forgotten at the last.
        Already I have seen it in the past
        Of spirit vision. It is even so.
        These eyes need not to see it.”

        — John Neihardt, “Sitting Bull”, circa 1930

  9. buda atum says:

    Merry Christmas and thanks for educating me.

  10. Phx2ashes says:

    Merry Christmas and a wonderful New year to you WR. Thanks for all you do.

  11. James says:

    Merry Christmas Wolf….I’m in Tokyo with mine & you’re in SF with yours!
    We are so lucky!

  12. Home toad says:

    What ever happened to the 3 wise men?

  13. Thurd2 says:

    “US Individuals: 10.3% or about $3.1 trillion of the debt held by the public, according to quarterly data from SIFMA. These are investors who hold Treasuries in their accounts in the US.”

    Oh crap, they are on to me. I’m gonna have to shift that $3.1 trillion to crypto.

  14. BuySome says:

    “I’ll have two egg nogs and a side order of toast.” “Sorry, we don’t serve toast on the side.” “But you do have a Christmas sandwich on toast, right?” “Yes we do.” “Well, then make me a Christmas sandwich, remove the toast, and put it on a side plate.” “But what will we do with the Christmas?” “Keep Christmas. Keep it between your legs!”

    Merry friggin’ Christmas, everyone! (Just humoring y’all). Now fork up for the bill!

  15. The Chart you have comparing the “China-Hong Kong” Reduction in US Treasury Holdings, and being Made up with “Euro Area” increase in US Treasury Holdings is interesting.

    Could it be that because the “Euro Area” has increased significantly US Treasury Holdings in making up for “China-Hong Kong” reduction of US Treasuries, that this is also an Influence in which the Federal Reserve had decided to Cut Interest Rates, in which they intended to remain and increase the value of US Treasuries so the “Euro-Area” can continue to buying more US Treasuries to offset “China-Hong Kong” Reduction .

    It would also be interesting to see how much of the “Euro Area” increase in US Treasuries is from Government (ECB Central Bank, etc..) vs Other, and how much of the Reduction of US Treasuries is from “China-Hong Kong” is from Government (China Central Bank, etc..) vs. Other

  16. Chinedu says:

    Merry Christmas Wolf and thanks for the great writeup

  17. Slick says:

    Merry Christmas to all and to all Good Morning! Thanks Professor Richter for your gift of insight!

  18. rodolfo says:

    Feliz Navidad y Prospero año a todos desde Costa Rica. Gracias senor Wolf

  19. ReaderInCA says:

    Bonne année, bonne santé, beaucoup d’argent dans la porte-monnaie! Merry Christmas and thank you for providing such down-to-earth education, great sense of humor, and sparking very lively and entertaining discussions. Happy New Year to you and all your readers!

  20. Asul says:

    Merry Christmas to all …

    Well, the 120 % debt to GDP ratio is “normal” for Western countries, as there are many with such a ratio, and the U.S. has higher growth, higher innovation rates than the others.

    What is worrisome is that the financial crisis 2008-2010 led to an increase of debt of nearly 40 % (from 60% to 100% of GDP). As the latest housing data are not positive (increasing inventory) another housing collapse would hurt the U.S. even more and then the debt to GDP ratio would go up pretty quickly.

    Not a pretty picture after all.

  21. John S Booke says:

    Merry Christmas everyone. It seems to me that if new money can be created out of thin air, not only just here in the US but all over the world, then there really is not a problem as long as inflation stays within normal limits. I know people will say it not right because we’d we be handing over a huge debt pile to our kids and grandkids. But why would our kids and grandkids stop creating money out of thin air?

  22. Kent says:

    Merriest Christmas Wolfman! Though I remain on the naughty list. I’ll be touring San Fran in February. Been there a couple of times on business, but never got much time to look around. My son’s giving a presentation at a professional seminar and invited Mom and Dad to join him and ride those Waymo thingys around town.

    • MC Bear says:

      I highly recommend Chinatown. Should have decorations up for Lunar New Year. Enjoy the city and Waymo tours! Would be great to have additional anecdotes from Wolf’s wonderful readership.

      Merry Christmas and happy holidays to all!

  23. Joe says:

    Recently discovered you Wolf. Some very insightful data which tend to dispel a lot of the over simplifications one see’s in the media. While the debt is indeed up wazoo and needs to be addressed it is good to see a bit of popular mythology dismissed namely that most of our debt is owned by foreigners like China who could destroy us if they chose to sell off. I’ve been reading these nonsensical bogeyman stories for years. I assume most of them emanated from conservative think tanks or others with a similar agenda.

  24. ShortTLT says:

    Merry Christmas, Wolf.

    Where do primary dealers fall within this breakdown? US Commercial Banks?

    • Wolf Richter says:

      Those Treasuries that they and other brokers hold in the accounts of their clients show up in the category of the clients, such as “Individuals” or “Pension funds” or whatever. So if you have a brokerage account at Goldman Sachs, and have $100,000 in Treasuries in that account, it would show up under “individuals.”

      Those Treasuries that Goldman holds in its own account show up under “banks.”

  25. fullbellyemptymind says:

    09:35 EST – shall we begin the airing of grievances?

    There’s a housing shortage, but prices are crashing!!! Not in my area of course, nothing but builders as far as the eye can see around here. Mostly illegal labor though, round em up if they won’t vote right!!!

    The fed are beholden to wall street. They drink mothers milk from caged virgins while manipulating my assets ever higher so I’ll accept my fate as a powerless wage slave and drive one of their genital shrinking electric vehicles.

    My dollars are worthless, but you can’t have any of them, you millennial slacker and/or person born before 1970 who has never experienced hardship!!

    • ShortTLT says:

      90% of the population is dirt broke, they eat ramen every night and have maxed out credit cards! All the consumer spending is being driven by the top 0.1%!! /s

  26. streber says:

    Thank you Wolf.

    I started my Christmas day with your excellent recap on U$$A national debt and

    yesterday’s article by ‘simplicius.’

    “MSM Quietly Acquits Itself with Hushed Admissions of Major White House Coverup”

    Simplicius
    Dec 24, 2024
    ∙ Paid
    =====

    The West’s Kabuki Theater of the Absurd is ever more exposed.

  27. SoCalBeachDude says:

    Back in time in 1981 a number of us were alarmed at the US federal debt approaching the $1 trillion mark so we voted for Ronald Reagan for President of the US based on his promises to deal with the ballooning federal debt. We and all of American were in for a very rude shock in the period that followed with the federal debt exploding to more than $2.8 trillion by the time Ronnie left office in 1989. Then came George H. W. Bush and his Vice-President who assured us that federal debt just simply doesn’t matter as the federal government just kept spending like a bunch of drunken sailors.

    Now, many years later as we enter 2025 and the federal debt is roaring towards $37 trillion and the interest alone on that debt in US Treasuries is now around $1 trillion a year with the debt increasing by more than $2 trillion a year, it appears that the debt and deficit may matter.

    The question, of course, is what do we do about that problem and there are simply no answers other than to increase taxes and to cut 20% to 30% of the excessive federal spending. The question is whether the American people have the will to do that before their government slams at 200 mph into a solid brick wall and implodes.

    • Jon says:

      After few years we would be having the same complain when thr debt hits 100T.

      Debt does not matter really if you think logically until it does

  28. Spencer says:

    Great dissection of the counterparties. The obvious danger comes from the ones that we don’t owe to ourselves.

  29. Charles Jacobs says:

    Everyone who bought the May 15, 2050 1.25% 30 year Treasury bonds have already seen the value of those bonds decline by more than 50%.
    In the event that they’re ever forced to, or just decide to, sell those bonds anytime soon, they’ll take a huge haircut.
    Treasuries are risk free until you need to sell them.

    • Wolf Richter says:

      Treasuries are risk free only in terms of CREDIT risk — they won’t default. They do have interest rate risk (prices fall when yields rise), inflation risk (like any asset), and reinvestment risk.

  30. Depth Charge says:

    Merry Christmas, Wolf.

  31. John says:

    Merry Xmas
    Back in the nineties rates on the curve were a cross the board 5-6%. Not all the nineties but most of the years.

  32. Swamp Creature says:

    Merry Christmas Wolf

    Swamp Creature and Ms Swamp Creature

  33. Ace says:

    Who Buys and Holds the Recklessly Ballooning S&P 500 which has now Reached a Market Capitalization of $50 Trillion?

    Merry Christmas.
    Happy Hanukkah.
    Best to all in 2025.

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