Core Services PPI Explodes, Worst since March 2020, Causes Overall PPI and Core PPI to Explode

Food prices also spiked. Energy prices surged due to diesel, jet fuel, and industrial electric power. Ugly all around.

By Wolf Richter for WOLF STREET.

In another inflation shocker – services again! – the Producer Price Index Final Demand for Services exploded by 1.08% in July from June (+13.8% annualized!), the worst since March 2022 when inflation was peaking (blue in the chart). It was broad based: Prices for services less trade, transportation, and warehousing spiked by 0.69% (8.6% annualized), while prices for transportation and warehousing services spiked by 1.01% (12.8% annualized).

This explosion in services prices caused the “core” PPI Final Demand, which excludes food and energy, to spike by 0.92% month-to-month (+11.6% annualized), the worst since March 2022. And it caused the overall PPI Final Demand to spike by 0.94% (+11.9% annualized), the worst since March 2022, with food prices and energy prices also surging.

The six-month average of core Services PPI, which irons out some of the huge month-to-month zigzags, but also then lags sudden U-turns, accelerated to +2.8% annualized (red in the chart).

Year-over-year, the core services PPI jumped by 4.0%, a steep acceleration.

Where the new tariffs fit in.

The PPI does not track import prices, and therefore doesn’t directly track the costs of tariffs that companies are paying on imported goods. It tracks prices that companies charge each other, including export prices, and so indirectly, it tracks how companies eat the tariffs or pass them to other companies.

Companies have been paying the tariffs – $28 billion of them in July alone. In their earnings warnings and quarterly reports, consumer-goods companies, such as automakers across the board and companies such as Nike, have already disclosed how much those tariffs are costing them as they have trouble passing them on to consumers because additional price increases would cause sales to fall.

For them, the problem is that they’d already jacked up prices into the sky in 2020 through mid-2022, leading to an extraordinary historic profit explosion. And now they’ve hit consumer resistance.

The tariffs are percolating through the prices that companies charge each other, but have shown up only in small increments in consumer prices, totally overpowered by the renewed surge of inflation in services, which are not tariffed, which often have little price competition, and where consumers do most of their spending. It’s services inflation at the consumer level that is so hard for the Fed to contain, which is why the Fed fears services inflation so much.

Core goods: plenty of inflation, but not nearly as bad as services.

The PPI for “Finished Core Goods” cooled a little, rising by 3.1% annualized, a deceleration from increases in the 3.6% to 4.0% range in the prior three months. This measure excludes food and energy.

The six-month average continued to accelerate and reached 3.5% annualized in July, the worst since June 2023.

Year-over-year, the PPI for finished core goods accelerated slightly to 2.85%, the worst since June 2023.

“Core PPI Final Demand, which includes all goods and services except food and energy, exploded by 0.92% in July from June (+11.6% annualized), the worst spike since March 2023, driven by the price explosion of the services PPI. The six-month average accelerated to 2.9%.

On a year-over-year basis, the core PPI accelerated sharply to +3.7%:

Overall PPI Final Demand exploded by 0.94% (+11.9% annualized), the worst spike since March 2022, fueled by the explosion of the core services PPI.

And it was further fueled by the surge in food prices (+1.4% month-over-month).

Energy prices also surged (+0.9% month-over-month) on higher prices for diesel, jet fuel, and industrial electric power, though gasoline prices declined.

On a year-over-year basis, the PPI Final Demand accelerated to 3.3%, the worst since February.

Note how the acceleration in its uneven manner started in the second half of 2023, with June 2023 having marked the low point at near 0%.

What I expect.

Just by looking at the month-to-month blue lines in these charts, how much they zigzag, I expect further zigzags, big ones too. After a huge spike, we’ve often seen a much smaller increase or even a negative reading, and vice versa.

It’s the sum of those zigs and zags over time that mark inflation at the producer level. So I expect a sharp reversal of the services zig in a month or two. But I also expect the sum of those zigs and zags in the services PPI to trend higher on a six-month basis and on a 12-month basis and drag core PPI and overall PPI with it.

As mentioned, PPI reflects what companies charge other companies – not consumers. Companies paid $28 billion in tariffs in July, and they paid $27 billion in June, and $22 billion in May. Tariffs are a tax, but tax increases are hard to pass on, and tax cuts are never passed on.

But we can see the tariffs percolating through the ecosystem of companies as they’re trying to pass on some of the tariffs to other companies, and these other companies are resisting those price increases.

The far bigger concern here is inflation in services, which are not tariffed, which are a much bigger part of US economic activity, and where roughly two-thirds of consumer spending goes to.

And services inflation at the consumer level, such as tracked by CPI, has been reheating: Two days ago, the core services CPI shot up by 4.5% annualized, the worst in six months. It accounts for 60% of overall CPI. The push came from services other than housing. And today’s explosion of the services PPI is not encouraging, even if the next zag is much smaller.

And one more thing: The PCE price index, a measure of consumer price inflation that the Fed uses for its 2% target, includes some parts of the core services PPI here, such as the category of “portfolio management; securities brokerage, dealing, investment advice, and related services,” which also surged. The July PCE price index will be released on August 29, and it might come in hot due to services inflation, further fueled by the components from the services PPI here.

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  115 comments for “Core Services PPI Explodes, Worst since March 2020, Causes Overall PPI and Core PPI to Explode

  1. ReaderInCA says:

    May I ask – how do you think this will affect treasury interest rates going forward?

    • SoCalBeachDude says:

      They will head upwards on US Treasuries, both short and long term.

    • Wolf Richter says:

      For longer-term considerations, it takes more than a couple of inflation reports. So we have two CPI reports with accelerating services inflation in a row. And we had one PPI report with spiking services inflation. The trends look to be higher, but we need confirmation.

      So today, Treasury yields rose modestly. The 10-year yield by about 5 basis points, undoing yesterday’s decline. The 6-month yield by about 3 basis points, also undoing yesterday’s decline.

      Yesterday, the media was very successful in misrepresenting the CPI data by their exclusive focus in their headlines on overall CPI, which had been kept down by dropping energy prices, while CPI services and therefore core CPI surged. That surge was worrisome, but the headlines covered it up.

      Today, that could no longer be done with the PPI.

      For the bond market to seriously react to inflation, we need confirmation. If we get another bad core CPI reading and a bad core PCE reading before the FOMC meeting, and the Fed cuts anyway, long-term yields will like start rising on renewed fears of a lackadaisical Fed in face of surging inflation. The bond market is very nervous about inflation not being contained by the Fed.

      • Swamp Creature says:

        The Bond vigilantees are warming up the bullpin. They are salivating over the profits awaiting them when the long term bond market collapses right before your eyes.

  2. AR says:

    Market doesn’t care. Looks like it’s locked in for rate cuts.

    • Dylan C says:

      The federal funds rates futures market yesterday had a 0% chance for a rate hold and even 2% double cut. After PPI we had a 10% chance of a hold.

      It kind of feels like to me the equity shot its load early when cuts started. And now that they bet so much on it, its actually having the reverse effect. The expectation of lower rates might have lead to over-optimism and thus preemptive spending. Which ends up hurting the chances of a cut.

      Like why should the fed cut? I hear so many people say they should, but to solve what problem? The stock market sure thinks cuts are coming, but Im not sure why.

      • KenCor says:

        I know what you mean. He last cut them around election time, Sept through Dec, 2024. Why? That is the one time I would have to say that he cut to appease the current President and/or the one to be.

        If he cuts, I think it is just to show how dumb it is to invite even higher inflation rates back. “Look what you made me do!”

    • SoCalBeachDude says:

      No, it isn’t at all and sank today on yet another set of delusional notions yesterday that rates would go down. They won’t.

    • Bagehot's Ghost says:

      Back in 2022 the market spinners’ narrative was all about lowering rates but inflation ate all their predictions alive and kept right on rolling.

      Methinks when the media try to tell you rates will be coming down, and getting you to do foolish things with your money, you might be better off to do the opposite!

  3. grimp says:

    Explosive and shocking indeed unless you read WS. I remember reading how inflation has a way of dishing out nasty surprises.

    Need to see JP pulling his hair out here.

    The stock market is primed for a rug pull.. But it probably won’t happen.

  4. SSK says:

    Do you think the tariff increases will be onetime? My guess is a gradual decline in month on month number over next 6 months. And I guess, the difference in CPI an PPI will likely affect corporate profits more, essentially creating more impact on stock prices (lower PE) than bonds.

    The other aspect could be decline in dollar (something you may want to cover in article) causing tariff like effect or magnifying it – increasing PPI If dollar strengthens (which seems unlikely) this effect may reverse

    Overall – my guess not very bearish for us30y, us10y but a hit on EPS for companies. Who knows – I may be wrong.

  5. Gattopardo says:

    July PCE will come in hot, but not as hot as now expected. The sensible commenters on this board will call for no Fed cut in Sept, while the administration will point to the number as good news and refresh its call for urgent rate cuts (to lessen the cost of interest, mind you, not because the economy is weakening).

    • SoCalBeachDude says:

      Sensible people will suggest a significant Federal Funds interest rate hike.

    • 4hens says:

      Shout this a thousand times from the rooftops, as it is the real reason for cut pressure: “to lessen the cost of interest.”

      (However, I’d replace “interest” with “debt,” as a quibble).

      The head of the exec branch is a debt guy.

    • Bagehot's Ghost says:

      I fear that the media chatter is oriented at shifting everyone’s mental bias to “cut, or don’t cut”, when realistically a rate hike (and recession) is required to stop the inflationary everything-bubble mindset in its tracks.

      The Fed is supposed to be the responsible adult that takes away the punch bowl when the party goes out of control.

      And the party has been out of control for 4 years.

      They thought they’d engineered a soft landing, but I don’t think the plane even came within sight of the sound.

  6. thurd2 says:

    It will be interesting to see if Trump is going to continue “his inflation is low” and “the Fed needs to reduce rates” rhetoric. Maybe one of his staff will clue him in (I doubt it).

    • Danno says:

      No one on his staff or party has the cajones to disagree with him on anything.

      Has anyone seen a group of hypnotized masses since the emperor with no clothes?

      Seriously, this is starting to get ridiculous or is it scary?

      Listening to NPR on occasion I’m amazed they are even still on the air based on the audacity of their reporters to represent a different P.O.V. other than the Trump mandate.

      • Eric86 says:

        Uhm how about every fucking administration. I swear you people only wake up every 4 years

      • SoCalBeachDude says:

        Now that NPR has lost its federal funding, it is funded by viewers, and can easily and clearly state the actual fact with total disregard to the pitiful and pathetic lies spewing out of the White House.

      • Candyman says:

        Oh my! Ok, you dislike Trump. Don’t let that influence you ability to reason.

      • thurd2 says:

        Listen to NPR? National Propaganda Radio. I’ll pass.

        • Idontneedmuch says:

          I used to. There were some decent shows. But the last several years it got so painfully biased, I couldn’t listen anymore. If tax payers are footing the bill, it should be at lease balanced. We will see if they can make it on their own.

          As a side note, I won’t be watching Southpark anymore. They too have become too one-sided.

        • Prairie Rider says:

          On a positive note, Minnesota Public Radio often broadcasts the Minnesota Orchestra’s Friday evening concerts live from Orchestra Hall. Both on FM and streamed digitally on MPR’s website. You can listen to these concerts from anywhere in the world with an internet connection!

          The recording engineer is superb. The technology used for the broadcasts is state-of-the-art. And most importantly, the orchestra is one of the best in the world.

          September 19th will be the first broadcast of the new season. Joyce DiDonoto is the featured guest for this concert.

          And since it is broadcast for free, there’s no inflation to worry about!

    • SoCalBeachDude says:

      The facts have already clued him in and if he ignores that it will, of course, be to his own peril. Facts are facts. Delusions are delusions.

      • Waiono says:

        “According to a report from the US Department of Labour (DOL) released on Thursday, the number of US citizens submitting new applications for unemployment insurance fell to 224K for the week ending August 9. The latest print fell short of initial estimates (228K) and was lower than the previous week’s 227K (revised from 226K).

        Additionally, Continuing Jobless Claims shrank by 15K to 1.953M for the week ending August 2.”

        Where’s the recession?

  7. Jimmeny Kirket says:

    This is all very exciting. Thank you Wolf.

    Line go up!

  8. Danno says:

    Can ANYONE please tell me is there ONE GOOD REASON at this time for a rate cut?

    Being REALISTIC of course.

    Thank you.

    • Eric Bianchi says:

      I don’t personally think there’s any good reason at all for a rate cut. Those inclined to advocate for it, though, will point to the past 3 months’ slowdown in the employment numbers, which suggest a risk of a broad economic slowdown over the next few months.

      This employment slowdown will be argued to justify a rate cut, by people who unfortunately will then soon enough have cause to shed tears while interest rates rocket back up in 2026, as the Fed is forced to respond to what will, by then, be a level of inflation even the administration won’t claim to love.

    • Tom S. says:

      The two year yield is quite a bit lower (~3.75%) than the fed funds rate.

    • spencer says:

      Yeah, N-gDp level targeting. The market is forward looking, sometimes 2 years in advance.

    • sufferinsucatash says:

      The fed drug their feet as long as they could to give some people cover to get their stuff in order.

      Now get your umbrellas out, a Hurricane of shite is coming for us.

  9. anon says:

    Thank goodness that, according to the “Main Stream Media”, inflation is only “transitory”.

  10. Waiono says:

    Just take a look at the Bonds today

    The long end yields all spiked big time.

    The rest is all noise, IMO

    • thurd2 says:

      Moves in the 20 year Treasury bond yield tells me pretty much all I need to know about inflation, although yesterday’s action seemed odd (rates went down despite high core CPI number). The stock market is a useless indicator, driven by mad men and MSM.

      • SSK says:

        I think long rates are too high in 20-30 yr tenure. it is the short rates that need to pick up with inversion of yield curve.

        Our deficit is going to be whacked off as gov cannot borrow at cdo projected rates, and they are forced to tax more / take away benefits. A massive depression in 5 yrs is coming as AI replaces 40% white collar jobs.

        A puppet fed governor wont help

        • Wolf Richter says:

          “as AI replaces 40% white collar jobs”

          LOL, that’s what they said about the internet, and it didn’t do that either; it destroyed many millions of jobs, but created many more millions of new jobs, including mine.

          That said, AI may be the first technology that on net destroys more old jobs than it creates new jobs. And it may not do that either. Lots of hype about this stuff out there now. You cannot take this stuff too seriously.

        • David says:

          Interesting since my oldest (in college) is going to drop down to part time in order to work part time at cleaning up code AI f’d up. New job category. Cleaning up after our AI overlords. It’s San Jose state so he’s right there for it.

        • ApartmentInvestor says:

          When Wolf wrote:

          “LOL, that’s what they said about the internet”

          I realized I’m old enought to remember when the PC was going to eliminated about 40% of all office jobs.

          P.S. When I was a kid I remember than an entire floor of my Dad’s SF office building had at least 100 young women typing on IBM selectric typwriters.

      • Waiono says:

        Today could not be ignored. Also see jobless claims post a bit up above. One Two punch.

  11. Phoenix_Ikki says:

    So rate cut in Sept then? Cool…

    Oh man, it’s going to be a good one for all the firework aiming at Pow Pow if he deviates from rate cut fever dream despite these not so good numbers

    • SoCalBeachDude says:

      There are 12 people who comprise the Federal Reserve FOMC (Federal Open Market Committee) of which the Chairman of the Federal Reserve is just one person with one vote. Even Bloomberg today ran a segment with a woman from PIMCO stating this very straightforward fact. Why do we need to keep restating this to the clueless who want to keep claiming that Jerome Powell can and does set interest rates by himself?

      • SOL says:

        He’s the Captain of the ship. I blame him exclusively for what happened to the cost of everything is the USA due to his transitory thoughts.

      • Phoenix_Ikki says:

        Hmm…you think I don’t know this?..but I am referring to strictly who the King will be aiming his trebuchet at, which will be Pow Pow and him alone.

        If we have someone else in charge, I wouldn’t be busting out the popcorn as public lynching by the top dog has never been done to any FED members or chair, rightfully deserved or not..

      • sufferinsucatash says:

        Wait lemme guess the PiMCo tart was pimping bonds or bond funds?

        lol

  12. old ghost says:

    Does anyone know what the inflation rate for CPI-E is at this time ? Is this info being published (or even still being collected ? ). I did a google search and could not find anything.

    For retirees, the key inflation index is the Consumer Price Index for the Elderly (CPI-E), which is a research price index calculated by the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS). The CPI-E specifically reflects the spending patterns of those aged 62 and older. While not used for official government adjustments like Social Security’s COLA, it provides a more realistic measure of inflation for retirees.

    I have to wonder if BLS numbers in the future are going to reflect reality, or the wishes of some guy in the White House ?

  13. Nick Kelly says:

    Meanwhile aspirants to appointment to the Fed outdo each other in their proposed cuts to the Fed’s rate. Marc Zumerlin is a piker here having called for a mere .5 % cut last time. David Zervos blows right past him in this race. Zervos is unable to see his way to Trump’s desired 3% cut ‘but I could certainly get to 2%’ or 4 times Zumerlin’s call.

    Is it something in the water?

    • Wolf Richter says:

      Dear Mr. President Sir:

      If you appoint me Chairdude of the Federal Reserve, I will praise you as long as I’m in that job, and I will cut interest rates to the negative 5 minutes upon being confirmed by the Senate via an emergency Microsoft Teams conference, during which any final resisters will be zapped remotely via Microsoft’s built-in soon-to-be-revealed AI-powered Teams Zapper.

  14. Depth Charge says:

    Just as all of the financial shill sites were penciling in a jumbo rate cut in September…. Any rate cut at all would be a dereliction of duty.

    Prices at the grocery store lately are absolutely mind-blowing. And I won’t even get into coffee.

    • Kyle says:

      Don’t dare eat out either. I went to a place last night and ordered brisket and Mac and cheese as I’m traveling. $18 for a small plastic container. Young couple with a kid and tattoos all over were ordering what must have been $75-100 of food. This is Sandpoint Idaho, BTW.

      Jpow needs to do an emergency hike of 2-4%, crush the parasitic class in this country. Except he’s one of them, as are all those employed by the federal reserve

      • ApartmentInvestor says:

        @Depth Charge Coffee has gone up a lot and I’ve been buying it on Amazon this year and they ship it to me for less than any local store.

        @Kyle the price gap between eating out and cooking at home keeps getting bigger. As this is happening my tenants seem to be cooking less and less (I think some young makes in tech that rent from me don’t cook at all and don’t even use the stove to boil water).

        P.S. The “poor” in America also always seem to find the money for tattoos and cigarettes…

  15. numbers says:

    “Over half of the broad-based July increase [in services] is
    attributable to margins for final demand trade services, which jumped 2.0 percent (27% annualized). (Trade indexes measure changes in margins received by wholesalers and retailers.)”

    Does this mean that wholesalers are passing tariffs on to other companies, even if companies aren’t yet passing those tariffs on to customers?

    • Wolf Richter says:

      We know that companies paid about $80 billion over the pas three months in new tariffs. And that $80 billion has been getting spread around amongst companies and cut into their profits — we have seen that too from their earnings warnings. Very little of it got passed on to consumers — we’ve seen that too from the CPI reports. Exactly how the tariffs are percolating through corporate America, how they get sliced and diced, spread around, and absorbed by profits is something the PPI data only hints at.

  16. Canadaguy says:

    So I thought you were dead wrong about foreign companies (like from Canada), not absorbing the tariffs, but dammit, I found a study that confirmed exactly what you were saying – for the most part they are mostly eating them entirely or sometimes cost (pain) sharing with a US company.

    Not sure how long this will be the case if the percentage keeps going up though.

    • cjj says:

      It gets even more bizarre when you see social media screaming tariffs are a tax on us chants from groups of people that historically do not like corporations. Literally regurgitating corporate rhetoric. I want to lean into their ears and whisper if you refuse to buy their stuff, it will be a tax on them.

    • Ekky says:

      Many will eat them short term as the response will be is there any good way we can avoid paying these tariffs. Can we find different vendors, do we move manufacturing etc. Once those questions are answered and cost base established, then you’ll see an impact on pricing. Corporate profits are higher than ever, they can absolutely stomach them long term.

      But we aren’t even fully settled with what tariffs from every country will even be, much less what the long term picture looks like for each industry. Other than what you buy off Amazon and clothing retailers and other cheap goods, the impact to consumers is going to take time to present itself.

  17. hrearden says:

    My gut has been telling me that inflation due to tariffs really wouldn’t start working its way into actual prices paid until Q4 of this year. My gut still tells me that we’re going to see inflation tick up and stay problematic through mid-2026 at the earliest, barring any other shocks from energy or a sudden financial blowup somewhere.

    With all that said, and I think that new car sale prices are a good indicator of this, I don’t think companies have much pricing power at the moment. Used car prices are ticking back up (to be expected with fewer used cars available due to the pandemic, combined with the *belief* that used = cheaper), but new car final sale prices seem to have hit a ceiling.

    I can’t help but think that a rate cut will be serious fuel to the inflation fire, but it seems that Trump is hellbent on making that happen.

    • Nick Kelly says:

      Since the tariffs on China have been delayed for three months, yr gut has been watching the news,

      • Wolf Richter says:

        Wait a minute. What has been delayed were the 100%-plus tariffs.

        But the 30% tariffs on Chinese imports are currently in effect.

        • Nick Kelly says:

          Jees I’d forgotten that. God only knows what they were thinking at 100%. Just a bargaining position I guess,

  18. 1%er says:

    Cutting rates as inflation ramps up and the markets are all at ATH based on nothing more than hopium.

    Things are swell if you part of the 1% asset class holders.

  19. hrearden says:

    Another anecdote in the services pricing discussion: I run an IT services company out of the midwest. Last month we received three requests for price breaks from long term happy clients who are under some financial strain. In the 27 years I’ve been in this business, this is only the second time we’ve received requests like this (first time being 2009).

    In terms of new biz development, our sales team has had to get clever with pricing, and our margins are definitely under pressure. Whereas we typically are able to charge $200 per user/mo., we’re increasingly making consessions to earn new business (no charge for onboarding, discounts for year paid in advance, price reductions into the $165/user range, etc.).

    Again, anecdotal. We’re still making reasonable profit, but the challenges are definitely out there.

    • 4hens says:

      If you’re still making reasonable profit, what were you making before?

      There’s a lot of excessive profit that can still be squeezed out of the economy, in favor of consumers.

      • Waiono says:

        Reasonable profit means the ability to take a few hundred employees to Hawaii resort for a week and party like it’s 1999….and STILL dish out massive bonuses to the top echelon. That niche has slowed a bit at top end Hawaii resorts in the past few months. let’s see what next winter brings….

        Let the consumer eat cake.

    • sufferinsucatash says:

      The Midwest has IT?

      Holy Moley!

      I knew we ran a cable to CA, someone must have tapped it.

  20. CommonCents says:

    ok, stupid question here (or stupid person):
    Core Services PPI is skyrocketing, but I didn’t figure out the specific reason(s) or sector(s) for this. Would someone please expand on that? Wolf does expect large swings with a general increase, which seems reasonable.

    Thanks.

    • Wolf Richter says:

      I gave you the two big subsectors in the first paragraph:

      “Prices for services less trade, transportation, and warehousing spiked by 0.69% (8.6% annualized), while prices for transportation and warehousing services spiked by 1.01% (12.8% annualized).”

      Prices rose in:
      – machinery and equipment wholesaling
      – portfolio management; securities brokerage, dealing, investment advice, and related services;
      – traveler accommodation services
      – automobiles retailing
      – truck transportation of freight.

      These declined:
      – hospital outpatient care
      – furniture retailing
      – pipeline transportation of energy products

  21. Swamp Creature says:

    Forget the PPI inflation. Get ready for some serious services inflation due to insurance companies scamming homeowners across the country. Because they lost so much money in California, Florida and NC recently these home insurance parasites are passing on all their losses to people who live far away from the hurricanes, wildfires, tornados and floods. So I and neighbors near me in low risk Maryland, who have none of these perils have to pay up. Insurance companies have partnered with Google and have been circulating drones over our houses inspecting roofs and demanding roof replacements when they are not needed. If you don’t replace the roof look for your premiums to go up 40% or more or have your policy cancelled. They are also sending crooked home inspectors to your house before renewing your policy. They are looking for reasons to raise your premiums. I got a letter the other day to set up a home inspection. All of these tactics are designed for one purpose and one purpose only. To get more money out of your pocket so they can improve their bottom line. Homeowners have no choice but to pay up. These insurance cost increases will make the PPI increases look like penny ante. We’re talking 40% to 50% increases YOY. ENJOY

    • Nick Kelly says:

      The losses in the LA fires the largest ins losses in US history are not going to be completely covered by insurers based there, or even in the USA.
      There is very little if any relation between the location of a disaster and the source of the coverage,

      ‘Germany’s biggest re-insurers took a $1.9 billion profit hit in the first quarter from claims related to the recent Los Angeles wildfires. Munich Re , the world’s largest reinsurance company, said Tuesday that it anticipated all claims attributable to the wildfires will total around 1.1 billion euros.May 13, 2025’

      • Swamp Creature says:

        “Germany’s biggest re-insurers took a $1.9 billion profit hit in the first quarter from claims related to the recent Los Angeles wildfires. ”

        Bring on the Violins. I don’t give a s$it about Germany’s re- insurers.

    • thurd2 says:

      Insurance companies run the country. They determine most of health-related costs, much of housing monthly costs nowadays, much of what it costs you to drive, some of the cost when you shop (those retailers need insurance too), some of the cost in manufacturing (those factories need insurance too), much of the cost of leisure activities (see what happens when you slip and fall in a hotel or supermarket). Insurance companies are the blood-suckers of our country. No wonder Buffett likes them.

      • SoCalBeachDude says:

        Laughably and totally false. Insurance is a very small part of costs.

        • Eric86 says:

          Are you dumb? My homeowners, auto, life, health comprise like 1/8 of my monthly spend. That’s a pretty big ass expense and it has only gone up.

        • thurd2 says:

          SoCalBeachDude. More sarcasm. But maybe not. Maybe you are an insurance salesman. Look at the fine print in any policy and see how an insurance company controls your life. Just today I read insurance companies are using drones to look at the roofs of houses, deciding whether or not the homeowner needs a new roof and how much to screw him if he does not put a new roof on his house.

        • SoCalBeachDude says:

          Properties have ALWAYS been inspected by insurers who cover them and that goes back to when insurance first started in the late 1700s back in Philadelphia by INA and others.

  22. Waiono says:

    “I posted this before but I will elaborate with some actual numbers:

    “According to AM Best, property casualty insurers made a record $169 billion in profit in 2024—even as they raised prices and pushed for laws to avoid paying more claims, all while claiming the industry was in trouble.1

    The $169 billion profit amounted to a 90% increase from the previous year and a 333% increase from 2022.”

    profit:
    2019 $62B
    2020 $62B
    2021 $62B
    2020 $39B
    2023 $89B
    2024 $169B

    Hard to lay that on Trump….but I’m not holding my breath on him scaling it back either. Maybe ICE needs to snag a few Insurance CEOs….That would most certainly swing the midterms.

    • SoCalBeachDude says:

      There is no federal government regulation of property and casualty insurance rates which are set on a state by state basis by the insurance regulators in each state where conditions and coverages vary substantially.

      • Waiono says:

        That should tell just how strong the Insurance lobby is. The industry spends $90+ in lobbying each year(pert open secrets).

        If you think AM Best is lying, then provide some data.

        • Eric86 says:

          He doesn’t post data. He regurgitates articles.

        • Eric86 says:

          He won’t. He just reposts headlines and hates trump. Lol

        • SoCalBeachDude says:

          Nothing you said contradicts a single word I said and my point is that insurance in the P&C sector is a STATE ISSUE and regulated by individual states and that has nothing to do with any lobbying by the industry. Compared to the banking industry the insurance industry is a very small player in the financial sector.

  23. Jason says:

    New tariffs are only one side of the story. Small business owners in this report probably still factored in the end of the Trump’s first term tax cuts into their pricing. After the “big beautiful bill” passed, they have now more options to keep prices lower, should consumer resist higher prices.
    The lower income tiers of consumers were struck particularly hard by the end of free money from the “American rescue act” and they were forced to cut back spending for a while now already. The higher income tiers are still doing well, with plenty of money in the bank. Still, for some the chance of losing their jobs to DOGE or AI, likely will have restrained their spending – again, this is before the “big beautiful bill” was passed, and tax cuts were made permanent. It just goes to show how disruptive the last election was. They have billions, perhaps trillions of dollars in cash sitting money market accounts and short term treasuries which they will try to invest somewhere else in the coming months. But where?
    Stocks? Crypto? Precious metals? Real estate? Or just overpriced Stuff?

    • American Dream says:

      As soon as Trump won the election it was signed sealed and delivered that the TCJA was going to be extended so what you are claiming is nonsense

      The question here is now that we’re seeing it in PPI will we see it in CPI or have they run out of pricing power and we see it in earnings.

      As for the Fed… Cuts are going to happen on growth fears not inflation confidence. Question is how far can they cut before they are more afraid of inflation then growth. Do we see political pressure for YCC and does it work. 🍿 Ready

    • SuperHans says:

      Sorry, nobody sitting in money market funds is going to ride to the rescue on their white horse to save all the gamblers. Anyone who hasn’t fallen for FOMO by now isn’t going to. And despite the mainstream media, no ,interest rates aren’t going to be going down with another trillion dollars in debt in the past 5 months.

      • Jason says:

        So what are they going to do with the money? Sit on it? Short term rates are at around 4%, and they will come down further, just as the two year bonds already indicate. Even Buffet feels now pressured to start to move into stocks (United Health).
        The best outcome would be increased spending. Let them buy a new Porsche or Lexus, and give some money back to the treasury that way.

        • SoCalBeachDude says:

          No. Short term rates will GO UP considerably as inflation starts showing up all over the place and accelerating. Too bad that won’t fix the problems with inflation, though.

        • American dream says:

          Buffet buying a stock that has cratered and retires suddenly wanting to go fomo on stocks is a laughable comparison.

          The reason those money markets aren’t heading into the market is these people don’t need the gains and they’ve seen multiple equity bubbles pop. Most want nothing to do with it.

        • Jason says:

          The markets are already pricing a in rate cut for September. If the CPI in August does not rise significantly, or if the job numbers continue to worsen, they will cut. And likely they will cut by 0.5 points. Which is good, they have to get the money moving again. That’s what the economy actually is, moving money. The problem is, those people that have a lot of money either don’t want to spend it, or don’t know what to spend it on. All the asset bubbles show no signs of deflation, so they will have to burst.

  24. SoCalBeachDude says:

    WHOLESALE PRICES HOTTER THAN EXPECTED…

    Inflation Gauge Rising at Fastest Rate in Years…

    CNBC Anchor Flips Out Over ‘WHOPPINGLY Big’ Number…

    Veggies up 40%!

    Electricity prices surging…

  25. Thomas Byrne says:

    “It’s services inflation at the consumer level that is so hard for the Fed to contain, which is why the Fed fears services inflation so much.”

    Very interesting .

  26. kramartini says:

    Can we finally all agree that it was an error for the Fed to cut last year?

    • Wolf Richter says:

      Trump thinks the Fed should cut to zero or by a lot. So clearly “we” cannot “finally all agree” …

      • kramartini says:

        I was referring to present company. Or does the president comment on this blog?

        • Wolf Richter says:

          Even among present company there are some that think the Fed was OK to cut, including me. For now rates are still OK. CPI is below 3%, 12-month core CPI is at 3.1%, three-month core CPI is below 3%. The Fed is at 4.25-4.50%. What I don’t want the Fed to do is cut now. It needs to hold rates, and if core CPI keeps going higher and hits 3.5%, the Fed needs to hike 25 basis points to 4.5-4.75%. It needs to stay at least 100 basis points ahead of core CPI inflation. If CPI spikes, the Fed needs to hike faster to stay ahead.

      • Eric86 says:

        Maybe not but I still think it was bad to cut. It needed and needs to crash

        • SoCalBeachDude says:

          Asset prices will likely decline but will not crash at all in housing based on the present US economic data.

      • wallflower says:

        Trump “think framework” kinda scat. If we take this think framework into belief… his belief kinda scat. Are the supporters and enablers also scat? How much scat is out there?

    • Ekky says:

      Have you seen the employment figures? The economy is hardly roaring. Inflation is sticky and not helped by all the new import taxes.

      And really, the impact of 1% in interest increases, well I think we know by now that it’s not huge on its own. I wish people would see a learning point that fiscal and monetary policy need to move in the same direction when battling inflation, not just relying on monetary alone. But both administrations have ignored this, Biden with his desire to invest more heavily and Trump with his import taxes (the wrong type of tax for fighting inflation) while cutting taxes elsewhere.

      Instead we rely on monetary policy at stupidly high levels. Right now more 70+ year olds are buying houses than people younger than 35. At the level of house prices we have (before some wise ass starts talking about 14% back in the day), 7% mortgages are not affordable. A whole generation must sit out and wait for the craziness to end.

  27. Nick says:

    Does anyone have speculation as to why service inflation has been on the rise? I’d guess (but I’m new to all this) that it has something to do with consumers allowing it, but why lately? Has something changed and people are now more tolerate of the price hikes?

    • American dream says:

      SPX 6450 could be it.

      All those paper gains making people wanna splurge on life or could just be inflation loop who knows

  28. Homer says:

    Powell will be at the Jackson Hole symposium next week, I guess we will see if he gives any info regarding his thoughts. I think right now the Fed is split 50/50 because of political and corporate pressure, Powell will probably be the deciding factor, the entire economy rests on his shoulders, no matter what he does people will hate him, what a shit job it is to be Fed chair!

    • SoCalBeachDude says:

      No, there are only 2 to 3 dissenting voices on the 12 member FOMC who want to consider lower policy interest rates. The majority of the FOMC most certainly does not and will not be lowering rates in September.

  29. Rick Vincent says:

    CNBC headline “ S&P 500 ekes out a third day of gains as traders shake off a hot inflation report”

    Shake it off is now a theory in business and Wall Steet; not just a Taylor Swift song.

    I seriously wonder how equities just keep ignoring everything and shooting higher.

  30. Dimitri says:

    Once in a while, it’s fun to push Wolf’s buttons and present a contrarian point of view or idea and watch Wolf’s pressure gauge go off the charts. Watch the pot boil over. Watch him go ballistic. 🫣
    Oh my sweet voodoo, inflation!

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