Corporate Profits in Nonfinancial Industries Plunge by Most Ever in $, amid Massive Downward Revisions

But profits are still huge after the pandemic free-money spike, except in auto manufacturing where losses pile up. Financial industry profits rose to a record.

By Wolf Richter for WOLF STREET.

The measure of corporate profits here are pre-tax profits “from current production” (more on what that means in a moment) by businesses of all sizes that have to file corporate tax returns, including LLCs and S corporations, plus some organizations that do not file corporate tax returns. The data are not based on surveys but on administrative data, such as corporate tax data from the IRS and from financial statements filed with the SEC. The by-category corporate profits for Q2 were released by the Bureau of Economic Analysis on Thursday with its third revision of Q2 GDP. All dollar figures here are seasonally adjusted annual rates (what profits would look like for an entire year at this quarterly pace).

And there were huge revisions of the Q1 data: Revised profits in Q1 of nonfinancial incorporated businesses plunged by $331 billion, or by 11.1%, from Q4. This means they were still massively profitable, with pretax profits at an annual rate of $2.64 trillion, but that was $331 billion less than in Q4.

This revision of Q1 produced the biggest quarter-to-quarter plunge in the data going back to 2001 in dollar terms. In percentage terms, it produced the third-biggest plunge behind Q4 2020 (when profits gave up some of the majestic free-money spike in Q3 2020), and in Q4 2008 during the Financial Crisis. Then in Q2, profits of nonfinancial businesses inched up by $9 billion annual rate from Q1 to an annual rate of $2.65 trillion, but that was down by $322 billion from Q4.

If profits in Q3 and Q4 remain at Q1 and Q2 levels, total profits for the whole year would be $327 billion below the Q4 pace. This is about the annual pace of the tariffs.

The plunge took place largely in manufacturing, wholesale trade, transportation and warehousing, and retail including ecommerce – the segments most exposed to tariffs.

But they had it so good for so long: From Q2 2020 through Q4 2024, profits in nonfinancial industries had spiked by 134%. Over the same period, the high-inflation years, CPI inflation surged by 22%. Corporate profits are where a big part of the inflation surge went.

So the plunge in profits this year comes off that spike during the high inflation years, and even after this plunge, pretax profits at nonfinancial firms from current production are still huge.

What are profits “from current production?” The BEA adjusts profits from IRS and SEC data in three ways to get “profits from current production”:

  • “Inventory valuation adjustment” (IVA) removes profits derived from inventory cost changes, which are more like capital gains rather than profits “from current production.”
  • “Capital consumption adjustment” (CCAdj) converts the tax-return measures of depreciation to measures of consumption of fixed capital, based on current cost with consistent service lives and with empirically based depreciation schedules.
  • Capital gains & dividends earned are excluded to show profits “from current production,” rather than financial gains.

Corporate profits by major industry.

Wholesale trade: Profits plunged by 18% in Q2 from Q1, and by 26% from Q4, and also by 26% year-over-year, to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of $218 billion.

But since Q2 2020, profits are still up by 38%.

Transportation & warehousing: Profits plunged by 8.5% in Q2 from Q1, by 25% from Q4, and by 26% year-over-year, to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of $93 billion.

But since Q2 2020, profits are still up by 313%! And from the prepandemic high in Q2 2017, profits are still up by 32%.

Manufacturing industries, durable goods: Profits rose by 3.8% in Q2 from Q1 after plunging in Q1. Since Q4, profits fell 12%, and year-over-year, they fell 11% to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of $338 billion.

Durable goods include motor vehicles and parts, aircraft, machinery, computers, electronic and electrical equipment, appliances, trailers, fabricated metals, components, etc.

For example, manufacturing of motor vehicles and parts, which is part of durable goods manufacturing. The sector booked losses “from production” in both Q1 (-$10 billion annual rate) and Q2 (-$18 billion annual rate) as these companies could not pass on the tariffs and had to eat them, because they had to cut prices and throw incentives at the market to maintain their sales volume.

The problem is the orgy of jacking up prices from 2020 to mid-2022, until those prices hit a ceiling, when consumers came out of their pay-whatever stupor and refused to pay more. Since then, companies had to offer deals to make sales happen. Tariffs cannot be passed on under these conditions. They all know it, they’ve all said it in their earnings announcements, and they’re busy shifting more production to the US. But that’s a slow process.

Manufacturing nondurable goods: Profits jumped by 17% in Q2 from Q1, to $311 billion annual rate, but had plunged in Q1, and are still down by 10% from Q4, and by 9% year-over-year.

The sector includes food (such as packaged food), beverages, tobacco products, supplies, petroleum products, chemical products, coal products; apparel, shoes, and accessories, etc.

Since Q2 2020, their profits are still up by 239%.

Retail trade, including Ecommerce: Profits rose by 3% in Q2 to $403 billion annual rate, but profits had declined in Q1, and are still down by 5% from Q4

Since Q2 2020, their profits have surged by 67%. And since Q1 2020, profits have spiked by 135%. That’s where part of the inflation in products that consumers buy at stores came from.

“Other nonfinancial” industries: This is the biggest nonfinancial category, with huge industries, mostly centered on services that are not heavily impacted by tariffs: professional, scientific, and technical services (includes some tech and social media companies); healthcare and social assistance; real estate and rental and leasing; accommodation and food services; construction; mining and oil-and-gas drilling; administrative and waste management services; educational services; arts, entertainment, and recreation; agriculture, forestry, fishing, and hunting.

Profits were roughly unchanged in Q2 at $967 billion annual rate, and were down by 6% from Q4. Year-over-year, they were also down by 6%.

Since Q2 2020, profits have nearly doubled.

Information: Profits were unchanged in Q2, at $271 billion annual rate, and down 12% from Q4. Since Q2 2020, profits have spiked by 186%! From the prepandemic high in Q2 2016, profits have surged by 51%.

The category includes businesses engaged in web search portals, data processing, data transmission, information services, software publishing, motion picture and sound recording, broadcasting including over the Internet, and telecommunications.

But in the financial industry, profits rose by 2% to a record $901 billion seasonally adjusted annual rate in Q2, up by 1% from Q4 and up by 3% year-over-year.

Since Q2 2020, profits have more than doubled.

Includes: Insurance companies of all kinds, banks and bank holding companies, firms engaged in other credit intermediation and related activities; firms engaged in securities, commodity contracts, and other financial investments and related activities; funds, trusts, etc. But it does not include the 12 regional Federal Reserve Banks (FRBs).

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  16 comments for “Corporate Profits in Nonfinancial Industries Plunge by Most Ever in $, amid Massive Downward Revisions

  1. Mario says:

    So profits have declined (even if still above 2020 levels) but valuations of publicly traded companies seem to be near all time highs?

  2. AR says:

    We are long long away from recession. Companies still making lot of money.

    • Glen says:

      I’m not suggesting we are anywhere near a recession but I wouldn’t use corporate profits as the gauge. Better to look at unemployment, hiring and other indicators as to whether it is approaching. Decreases in immigration and related probably helping the unemployment low although not sure how significant.

  3. Depth Charge says:

    Here’s your GREEDFLATION, right here.

  4. GuessWhat says:

    So in all of these graphs, every industry appears to have doubled their profits. Geez, I wonder how that happened?

    I love the association between Nonfinancial Domestic Industries & the annual cost of tariffs.

  5. SoCalBeachDude says:

    This all comes down to massive price gouging by corporations and the US Anti-Trust Laws not being enforced.

  6. SoCalBeachDude says:

    When is enough enough to put a stop to all of this massive price gouging?

    • Kent says:

      It will happen when people change their behavior and refuse to be gouged. We seem to be seeing it in the auto and housing industries. But those are most folks two highest ticket items and it needs to move to more down-priced items. I changed my behavior almost immediately, but I don’t watch the “news” and blame big gubmint for individual corporate decisions.

  7. SoCalBeachDude says:

    The US government is 2 days away from shut down and this is barely even being discussed in the media and the Democrats and Republicans aren’t even seriously debating the issue but rather trying to figure out who gets blamed for the US government spending nearly $2 trillion more than the bloated budget and having to borrow that each year just to keep kicking the can down the road.

    • Glen says:

      Solid vacation for those that don’t get paid, don’t have to work, and get back pay when they return. I’d take a piece of that action. And yes, I do understand implications are well beyond that and it will cause pain for many. My money is on democrats folding.

  8. Midwest Ralph says:

    Tariffs are bringing in roughly 300B annual so we just have to find another 1700B in savings to get that 2T deficit down right? I would presume that USA production brings in more tax revenue that having production offshore. Any reason tariffs plus more tax revenue from increased onshore couldn’t close the gap to 1T in a couple years once the onshore factories start running?

    • Wolf Richter says:

      No one says that you have to close the budget gap. But get the deficit down to 3% of nominal GDP, and over time, with 2.5% economic growth (adjusted for inflation) and 3% inflation, the burden of the debt would shrink. So the first step is to get the deficit to 3% of nominal GDP. Right now that means get the deficit to down below $1 trillion. That’s what the goofballs in Congress should be working on. Tariffs are a step in the right direction; shifting production to the US is a big step in the right direction. But it’s going to take a little more than that.

  9. makruger says:

    Given the egregious nature of these corporate profit charts, it would seem that it may not have been wage inflation that caused all the post pandemic consumer prices price inflation, but corporate price gouging.

    So much for the long standing media narrative of blaming all consumer price inflation on rising employment wages.

  10. graphic says:

    So, Retail Trade hardly suffered a decline in profits in Q1 and Q2. Since retailers import a lot of stuff for the coming festive season, presumably their profits will also be hit by tariffs in Q3 and Q4. I can’t see retailers being able to pass on tariffs given the foul public mood at present. It’s interesting how no blame from people doing it tough has yet attached to the big ‘corporations’ – they won’t hear about those obscene profits from the mainstream media. Thank you, Wolf.

  11. J0rdan says:

    Yet another glaring sign of how the Fed and everyone else in government lied straight to our faces on inflation. All signs point to 2x-3x what they claimed.

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