The Fed’s Next Moves, the Nuts and Bolts of “Flood Cars,” and Why Everything Is Going to Get Hacked

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Wolf Richter with radio host Jim Goddard on This Week in Money, dissecting the Fed’s focus on inflated asset prices, which pose risks to the banks, and how this focus is impacting monetary policy. To top it off, the Fed’s policy-setting FOMC may be an entirely different ball of wax next year. We also discuss “flood cars” — which will show up everywhere — and the chilling side effects of the Internet of Things:

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  33 comments for “The Fed’s Next Moves, the Nuts and Bolts of “Flood Cars,” and Why Everything Is Going to Get Hacked

  1. Gershon
    Oct 1, 2017 at 10:01 am

    The Fed’s “next moves” haven’t changed since 1913:

    Step 1: Create fake money stealing value from everyone

    Step 2: Loan the fake money to people with interest

    Step 3: Take people’s stuff when they can’t repay the debt

    Step 4: Get government to enforce our fraud

    Step 5: Plunder humanity

    • Davis
      Oct 1, 2017 at 11:42 am

      I think you forgot a couple of steps.

      Step 0: Let all our insiders (probably less than a 1000 people) know that they should purchase as much as asset as possible before the new fake money sends their prices to the moon.

      Step 2B: Let all our insiders know it is time to unload all the assets at the top of the market.

      • Rates
        Oct 1, 2017 at 2:05 pm

        Step 0: People have to be stupid enough to allow 1 to 5 to happen.

        Borrowing a large amount of money to buy things. LOL. It’s a choice, not a necessity.

        Muppets, more dangerous than anything. The Fed’s been around since 1913, but debt has been around since 5000 years. Saying everything started with the Fed is the epitome of Muppet’s dangerousness.

        The fall of the Muppets is fully deserved.

        • Gershon
          Oct 1, 2017 at 3:43 pm

          Even people who are financially responsible and refuse to take on irresponsible levels of debt are being screwed over by the Fed’s debasement of the currency and asset bubbles, especially in housing.

          We will not have honest markets or sound money until we end the Fed.

        • bev kennedy
          Oct 1, 2017 at 4:16 pm

          The tendency to blame “the vicitm” or consumer is a red herring distracting awareness from the real source of the mess

    • Maximus Minimus
      Oct 1, 2017 at 12:03 pm

      6. Call it capitalist creative destruction
      7. Provide lots of bread and circuses

    • two beers
      Oct 1, 2017 at 12:58 pm

      step 8: blame it all on Keynes, who as we all know, was in charge of the US economy in 1913, and who never, ever clearly delineated the many differences between monetary policy and fiscal policy.

      (/s, in case one is ignorant of economic history)

    • cdr
      Oct 1, 2017 at 3:53 pm

      Gershon – No!

      1- Create money. Get it to the upper 1% with NO interest. Let them profit from the skim from asset inflation. Deny the existence of asset inflation.

      2- NO interest causes no interest income for the 99%. This causes deflation because personal income falls. The capital providers are crowded out by printed money at 0-ish% interest.

      3- Fed laments about low inflation. Some FOMC members ponder more QE to spark the inflation their models say should be there.

      4- Go to step 1

      No ill will or outright criminal fraud required. They are only responding to what their models state they should do based on the best academic theory available that they consider credible. Wall Street supports their efforts. So do reputable think tanks. Only an extremest or a nut would disagree with this support.

      • bev kennedy
        Oct 1, 2017 at 4:20 pm

        Oversight of the financial industry is deliberately inefficient
        Why because the political will to address this is not there beyond speech making at election time

  2. raxadian
    Oct 1, 2017 at 10:27 am

    When that simpsons episode about the y2k aired “everything being connected to the Internet” was a joke. Nowadays you can literally hack a toaster.

    • cd
      Oct 1, 2017 at 11:42 am

      BLM has hacked my toaster, its been burning my toast, throwing crumbs against my glass lid and everything is put in there has is covered up by masks…

    • Carlada
      Oct 1, 2017 at 3:26 pm

      Don’t know where you were back then, but my computer came with a CD-ROM discussing connecting everything, i.e. TV, computer, coffee pot, etc. — in 1995.
      I’ve seen this/your sentiment posted before and wanted to state that the concept of connecting devices was not a joke and is not a recent event.

      • alex in san jose AKA digital Detroit
        Oct 1, 2017 at 7:15 pm

        I remember my Windows 95 computer (IBM Aptiva) I got in 1997 had with it some weird home-control things, X.10 I think it was called? So the computer could control things like lights etc in the home.

        Internet of things is an idea that goes ‘way back. The idea of automatic, interconnected things goes back to well before the internet; it’s just the same old ideas hashed over again and again, the internet being just the latest fillip.

        http://www.gs.cidsnet.de/englisch-online/originals/soft_rains.htm

        • Carlada
          Oct 1, 2017 at 10:44 pm

          I searched trying to find stuff on this topic and your IBM Aptiva came up in the first results—“IBM Home Director”. I didn’t have an IBM but it came with a TON of software, I assumed something Microsoft. I can’t remember what it was for sure, but it involved plugging in those modules like IBM Home Director. Google it, I found an article and there are YouTube videos.
          At the end of the 1997 article… “Luddites beware: every aspect of your domestic life could soon be dependent on the PC”.

      • raxadian
        Oct 1, 2017 at 8:36 pm

        So has the idea of flying cars, jetpacks, moon colonies… yet save for the flying cars, nothing of that has happened yet.

        The idea of a “smart house” predates the Internet but it was fiction or just too expensive at best.

        And I knew it was a bad idea even back then because I used to be a fan of remote controled model planes until I learned you could just turn them off in mid air with the right TV remote control.

        I was like “OMG they will mess up with my ‘smart’ fridge if I ever get one.”

        So yeah call me old fashioned but I think smart TVs and so on are more trouble that they are worth.

    • cdr
      Oct 1, 2017 at 4:04 pm

      I think I read some hacked toasters are churning out bitcoins for said hackers. Way better than ransomware. The gift that keeps on giving.

    • Maximus Minimus
      Oct 1, 2017 at 4:43 pm

      But you won’t be able to hack Elon Musk’s rocket to Mars. You will not end up on Venus, or your money back.

  3. bkennedy
    Oct 1, 2017 at 12:09 pm

    Love these comments. Especially the toaster item

  4. michael
    Oct 1, 2017 at 12:40 pm

    They must not be too concerned if their plan is to raise rates .25% once a quarter.

  5. Realist
    Oct 1, 2017 at 2:59 pm

    As always well worth listening to Wolf.

    Wolf did touch on a quite hot potato, ie IoT or more specifically, the security of IoT devices ( read the nonexistent security ).

    When you buy that connected lightbulb, fridge or stove, for how long will you be able to get the needed security patches for your devices ?

    Someone who has the knowledge can reasonably protect his/hers network with all nice IoT toys at home, but most ordinary Joes consider IT security as something more or less edible and act accordinly, their main argument being “I haven’t got anything to hide” and thus they’ve lost the game already ….

    As Wolf so nicely did say, everything that is connected to the internet is hackable …

  6. KFritz
    Oct 1, 2017 at 3:15 pm

    This show actually lets Wolf talk at length and in depth! How fortunate for him and us.

    On YouTube, I recently watched a glib, superficial host with a third rate intellect “interview” Nassim Taleb as though they were on an equal footing. The contrast couldn’t be greater.

    • Enrique Bermudez
      Oct 2, 2017 at 8:57 am

      FFS any journo attempting to match wits with Taleb would bring to mind Polish Cavalry against German tanks as far as “quantum of mismatch” goes.

      The next useful thing I ever hear from a financial journo will be the first.

  7. Drango
    Oct 1, 2017 at 5:37 pm

    A few trillion in QE wasn’t going to make a dent in a worldwide banking system that created 25 trillion in currency leverage alone, and making money cheap was probably not the best response to a crisis that was caused by made up money. But the Fed never seemed to care about the reason for the crisis – its first instinct was to save the banks that caused it. The fact that the Fed has re-created the conditions that existed prior to the last crisis shows that these people aren’t qualified. It’s time to replace the economists at the Fed with people who know how the economy actually works.

  8. Erich
    Oct 1, 2017 at 5:47 pm

    Speaking of hacking …. interesting article over at Slashdot concerning the Equifax CEO saying –

    There are two kinds of companies, according to a saying that former Equifax CEO Rick Smith shared in a speech at the University of Georgia on August 17. “There’s those companies that have been breached and know it, and there are those companies that have been breached and don’t know it,” he said.

    https://news.slashdot.org/story/17/09/30/2036215/equifax-ceo-all-companies-get-breached

    • Mike G
      Oct 1, 2017 at 7:12 pm

      And the subset of companies that get breached because they spend way more energy on maximizing executive compensation while being criminally lax on IT security because there’s no short-term profit in it.

  9. Gershon
    Oct 2, 2017 at 8:13 am

    I can’t imagine any Fed head who isn’t totally onboard with the Fed’s mandate, since it’s 1913 inception, of systematically transferring the wealth and assets of the vanishing American middle and working classes to its oligarch cohorts. But at least the possible new Fed head is criticizing Janet Yellen’s slavish capture by “the markets” – possibly disingenuous on his part, but we’ll see if he backs up his talk with action.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/02/fed-chair-favorite-warsh-believes-central-bank-is-slave-of-the-sp.html

  10. Oct 2, 2017 at 1:07 pm

    The Fed is going raise rates no matter what, I think that is the news. At the long end of the curve rates will rise according to the balance sheet reduction. They are going to normalize. Short of appointing his children to the post Trump cannot do much about it.

  11. thatblackwoman
    Oct 2, 2017 at 8:22 pm

    great interview. thank you for the data. i appreciate it. stay blessed mr. ritcher.

  12. thatblackwoman
    Oct 2, 2017 at 8:29 pm

    sorry for the typo. mr. richter. love your info.

    • Oct 2, 2017 at 8:58 pm

      No problem. You put up with my typos all the time :-]

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